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Old 12-25-2009, 12:00 PM
riyaaaz riyaaaz is offline
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Default Question on harf jar "bi" and "fi"


Is there a specific reason or pattern where the particle بِ is used in the place of فِي
Both can mean “in”

In book 2, first lesson, page 6, end of conversation
بِالمدرسةِ الثانويةِ - in the secondary school
Why can’t we use فِي
المدرسةِ الثانويةِ فِي
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:59 AM
abu_umar abu_umar is offline
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As salamu alaikum brothers and sisters.

I too would like to know the answer to this. Could someone please explain.

Thank you.
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Old 02-15-2010, 05:45 PM
irf2k irf2k is offline
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When referring to studying:

As we have studied in Book II (lesson # 11 ) that for University, preposition Bi is used and for School, preposition Fi is used.

This is the normal usage in many Arab countries.

In Lesson 1, page 6 is about teaching where "bi" is commonly used for school and university.

But one can interchange Bi for Fi and vice versa and still it will be correct.

However it will be better to follow what our respected Doctor Abdur Rahim is showing us in lesson # 11 and try to stick to that usage.

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Old 02-16-2010, 03:45 AM
adilbarra adilbarra is offline
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assalalmu alaykum,

As you all know all good comes from Allaah, and all the praises soleley belong to him only; may he be glorified, and exalted.

I would like to add a little bit to the answer the above mentioned very well; ma sha Allaah to the above logical question.

In addition, the preposition (فِي) which means in could be used before a noun; however, there are times you can use the preposition (بِ); however, this preposition has many meanings depending on the role it plays in the phrase and/or sentence. For example, (بِ) could mean (by, at, in, with). As a result, you can use it to say I am by my house, or I am the store, or I am in university, or I am with...and etc.

Finaly, I hope the above answers clarify your very logical question. May Allaahu ta'ala reward: brother Abdur ArRaheem, Asif Mehrali, and the institute of the language of the Glorious Qur'an with many good in this life, and in the hearafter. Also, may Allaahu t'aal allow you to master the: elequent, blessed, and honoured language of the Glorious Qur'an, and send many blessings on our beloved Prophet Muhammad; baraka Allaahu feek.

Allaah knows beset

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