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benss
09-11-2011, 01:37 AM
Sal‚mou'aleikoum wa rahmatoull‚h wa barak‚touh,

maybe the notion i'm asking about is dealt with in book 3. If it's the case, i've haven't gone thought it yet since i haven't finished book 3, so sorry for my impatience. If this notion is not studied in book 3, then i guess i'm in the right section for posting my "advanced question" :D.

Could anyone give me some hints about the use of is حرف ردع ?

As for many grammatical concepts/notions we've learned through Medina books, a حرف ردع has to be used appropriately, its use certainly follows a set of conditions. Does a حرف ردع has a "jawab" or a kind of ? In which context(s) can it be used ? For which purpose(s) ? What could be a grammatical analysis of a verse in the Quran containing such particule ? Does it makes a word to have a particular ending case (marfou3, majzoum, majrour, mansub) ?

May Allah be please with you brothers and sister for you .

P.S: I know " كَلَّا " which comes quiet often in the Quran. Are they other ? Is " بَلَی " a حرف ردع ?

benss
09-27-2011, 10:02 AM
Is there any ligth to throw light on that matte please.

As this particule حرف ردع come across quite often in the Quran, i would like to know more about its grammatical background, please :D

Jazakoumoullahou khairane.

benss
10-27-2011, 03:44 PM
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Relaunching the question :D

irf2k
10-27-2011, 10:38 PM
Wa-alykum assalam
I do not believe that this grammatical term is thought in in Madina Books 1 to 3. (I may be wrong).
So it is a concept for which you may not get any help in this forum.
You may want to ask Dr. Abdur Rahim in his blog. There is a link for it in this site.
Wasalam

Mazhar
10-28-2011, 11:57 AM
I know " كَلَّا " which comes quiet often in the Quran.

This is the only Particle of Restriction, coined for the censor of speaker and his determent regarding that which he had spoken. It occurs 34 times in the Grand Qur'aan.
كَلاّ

لها معانٍ، منها:

® الزَّجْر: ومنه قوله تعالى: ]واتَّخَذوا من دون اللهِ آلهةً ليكونوا لهم عزّاً كلاّ سيكفُرون بعبادتهم[ (مريم (19/81-82)

® والنفي، بمعنى: [لا]، ومنه قول الشاعر (اللسان 11/597):

قريشٌ جهازُ الناس حيّاً ومَيِّتاً فمَن قال: كلاّ، فالمكذِّبُ أكذَبُ

® والاستفتاح، بمعنى: [أَلاَ]، ومنه قوله تعالى: ]اِقرأْ وربُّك الأكرم. الذي علّم بالقلم. علّم الإنسان ما لم يعلم. كلاّ إنّ الإنسان ليطغى[ (العلق 96/3-6)

® وبمعنى: [حقّاً] ومنه قوله تعالى: ]كلاّ إنّ كتابَ الأبرار لَفِي عِلِّيِّين[

(المطففين 83/18)


حُكْم: إذا تَلَتْها [انّ] كانت همزتها مكسورة: [إنّ]، وقد تقدّم من أمثلة ذلك: [كلاّ إنّ الإنسان...] و[كلاّ إنّ كتابَ...].

irf2k
10-29-2011, 12:17 AM
Walaikum Assalam
Just for curiosity: Is this a grammatical concept covered in Madina Books?
Wasalam

hassan
10-29-2011, 05:59 AM
Walaikum Assalam
Just for curiosity: Is this a grammatical concept covered in Madina Books?
Wasalam
assalamu alaikum.

no brother, unfortunately not.
but it comes one time in "From Esfahan to Madinah" in this sentence:
قلت : كلّا والله إنّه خيرٌ من ديننا
I said, 'No way. By God! It is better than our religion'.


and dr. v. abdurraheem wrote in its Lexical and Grammatical Notes:
كلّا, a word denoting strong denial: 'not at all', 'no way'.

irf2k
10-29-2011, 04:50 PM
Jazak Allah

benss
11-02-2011, 12:47 PM
Jaz‚koumoull‚houkhairane.

Thank you very much all brothers for you efforts in answering questions.


P.S: what's "From Esfahan to Madinah", ‘ brother hassan ? Is this another book written by our honorific sheikh 'AbduRahim ?...I'm gonna google it and see what's about "From Esfahan to Madinah", of course, any clarification about it would be welcomed :)

hassan
11-03-2011, 10:50 AM
assalamu alaikum.
ya bro, its another book written by dr. v. abdurraheem. in first few pages, the narration and its translation is written. after that you will see vocabulary, short grammer explanation etc. just as you see in "Selections from the Glorious Quran".
its very very easy follow-up of madina books. but you have to buy it, it is not avaiable as an ebook.

for details: http://lqtoronto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265

benss
11-03-2011, 02:00 PM
Sal‚mou'aleikoum wa rahmatoull‚h wa barak‚touh,

Jaz‚kAllahoukhairane.

benss
11-09-2011, 12:59 PM
Sal‚mou'aleikoum wa rahmatoull‚h wa barak‚touh,

jaz‚kAllahou khairane brother hassan.